Hmm, If this post goes out it’ll be to much internal debate in my head.
I am gay, and by definition a gay games programmer. I want to write about how being gay has effected my life in terms of my working career.
I don’t hold much in the “gay community”. I tend to think of gay people with very diverse backgrounds. I only act as myself normally, and most of my gay friends do as well. There is a certain amount of expected behaviour in the community in how you’re supposed to act if your gay, but the reality is I like guys and that’s about the end of how being gay effects my personality. People who know me, I hope, see me as a nice guy and I hope they see all of me just not that I am gay.
I also am not the typical gay person in terms of looks/appearance. I have no dress sense; I don’t wear tight fitting clothes. I don’t have the normal physique; I am a bit on the chubby side.
I have found being gay in the workplace has been tough at times. I remember my first job at MYOB, they just had a set of redundancies. A group of fellow employees gathered around near my workstation and said “Oh my god we got rid of one of those”, and they were all talking how relieved they were to have a gay employee let go during the redundancies. No mention that he was a fellow colleague and had just lost his job, it was all about just one aspect of his life and that was it. This event affected me but not in a good way.
I joined the gaming industry because I wanted something with challenge and creativity. I decided when I was working for MYOB and later Élite working on tax software that gaming was what I wanted to do. I ended up spending a fortune buying games book after games book on Amazon, this was before they were easy to get hold of. As a high school dropout my maths skills were shocking, and I knew from all the research I had done that I needed to improve. I spent 2.5 years learning the maths required, much of which I would of learnt during high school.
I then got my final big break into the games industry. Ratbag was an amazing experience for me. I have many fond memories from my time there, including my first pub-crawl, through the streets of Adelaide. The job came at a good time, almost a week after breaking up with my first boyfriend I got the call to come for the interview. It was just the thing to boost my spirits. Unfortunately Ratbag only lasted for a few months before things didn’t go well. I got told I wasn’t going to pass my probation, and was given a generous payout and I headed back to Melbourne.
IR Gurus/Transmission was my next stop. It took around 6 months to find this job. As a junior in the games industry it’s hard to land on your feet again, and I spent many an hour going to interviews. Having Ratbag on the resume did help to a degree. At IR Gurus I was told I was going to be on a 3-month contract. I basically spent about a week doing the job they hired me to-do, then I was given other duties pretty much straight away and quickly became full time. I spent a year at IR Gurus working on their sports titles.
I ended up forcing myself into the role of graphics programmer. So I ended up rewriting a lot of the graphic engine for the players, and I think I ended up improving how things worked. In terms of my gay life it was quite hard to IR Gurus, the guys in the sports team I felt were pretty homophobic, making homophobic jokes all over the place. IR Gurus had two very different cultures because when I joined two companies combined together into one, there was “That Game” who worked on Heroes over the Pacific and IR Gurus who worked on the sports title. The “That Game” team were cool; I had issues with the IR Gurus team. I was never happy at IR Gurus due to other factors as well, such as bad working conditions. They were continually “asking” us to work weekends, public holidays, and they were late with our monthly pays continuously. I ended up having one of the worst working morale’s in my working life there. I almost got out of games. I ended up quitting and was contemplating going overseas to work. I put my resumes around to different companies. I ended up quitting without another job to go to out of frustration.
Krome rang me about a week after quitting IR Gurus and asked me to-do a phone Interview, and later that month I accepted a offer to work in Brisbane. Now Krome was a interesting place to work for. I made tech for some very exciting games while I was at Krome, Viva Piñata Party Animals, Scene It: Box Office Smash and about half a dozen other titles. I was originally employed in the engine team only as a temporary position until a position on a game team opened up, but the guys were sufficiently impressed with my work so I was working on their tools inside the engine team. The engine team in Brisbane had a great vibe, interestingly enough they made gay jokes all the time but I was never fazed because it was always in good spirit. One of the fellow employees made a comment one day “If there was any gay guys on the team, I always wonder what they think”, and to be honest I never had any issues. The only issue I had was isolated to one employee who hated gay people with such distaste it was frightening in a way. Things were improving.
When Krome bought out Melbourne House I took the first opportunity to head back to Melbourne. Melbourne House was a great place to work. The engine team in Melbourne were some of the most experienced guys I’ve ever worked for, and I was learning things continuously. I had a very similar personality I felt to one of the other engine programmers, who had worked for Melbourne House the longest, so we had a great working relationship. There were also other gay employees in the office, they weren’t “open” in terms they tell everyone about their partners or something, but went with the policy if you asked they wouldn’t deny anything.
One thing that I always found annoying though is the fact that if people asked if I was gay I would always deny it. It would be very unpleasant feeling and I would instantly turn off. I had this happen a lot at Krome. I did tell one girl on my team I was gay, but that took a great deal of effort. She was great because she had a circle of friends who were gay. Also the employee who had been around Melbourne House for some time had a great attitude towards gay people. Generally the atmosphere around Melbourne House inspired me in a lot of ways. I guess I was having issues with my lead, I respected him a lot, but we had very different ways of working on things. He was very much dot all the i’s type, and make sure everything came in on time. I was very much the type that would underestimate the effort on things, which never fitted in well
. In some ways I regret leaving Krome, when I left it was for a position with more money and it was the first time I wasn’t leaving because I was unhappy.
Infinite Interactive was the next place. I really loved their games, part of the reason why I jumped ship. Infinite was very much extremes in terms of the working environment. There were things that were extremely good, and things that were extremely bad. There was no middle ground in terms of the experience there. The greats were the open doors to Steve office, I chatted to him for hours. I chatted to him about gay guys and he had some great stories about that. While he worked at Strategic Strategies Group, he said that boss there hated gay guys and promised never to hire any, but during one Christmas party about 4 employees all came out of the closet. Steve said he’s never had any issues with working with gay guys, used to-do Dancing as a hobby so had many gay friends. He would get upset if anyone had issues with gay people in his company. At Infinite there were 2 other gay employees that I know of, one was very openly gay and would talk about his partner (and they were practically married), the other was a bit more introverted anyway but never hid anything from anyone. I discovered I had good project management skills when I was there, I organised software purchasing, fixing of equipment, and fixing up the equipment. This was the extreme downside; I had such trouble with the IT equipment that was bought second hand it just ended up dominating all my time. It spilt over into all the other elements of my career, and I had angry people when my tools were late. I also felt like I was extremely unproductive while working there. I felt frustrated at myself while working there, I was in a relationship of sorts with a guy from New Zealand, and I physically could not tell anyone. One guy even asked me “Are you talking about a girl or guy?” and I couldn’t say, I just had a physical issue saying it out loud. In such a great environment for homosexual employees I should of been able to say something. The issues with the IT equipment, me working long hours, and I had started to go to Uni at that stage part time, meant I was getting angry, getting poorer and poorer in my health and something had to give. I was really enjoying Uni at this stage, more so than my working career, so I ended up quitting.
Hmm so then I ended up being a full time uni student. I have to admit I haven’t lost the buzz of enjoying learning yet. Part of the reason for doing Uni (well one reason amongst many) was to meet guys. I am very physically attracted to regular Uni going guys, and my ex from NZ was also doing CompSci. I have been doing uni now for a year and a half.
I have done a whole heap of games units at Monash. I have to admit it was a little tough. I was acting the introvert during the semester, when in fact I love being social (and introverted/extroverted I’m weird like that). I was just told by a few work colleagues at Infinite to lay low don’t let anyone know.
I’ve also started my own company doing some iPhone games. We applied for funding back in March but got declined and now I really want to focus in getting some tech done over the next few weeks. We couldn’t progress with the game until we knew what was happening with the funding, which was frustrating since the funding can only develop new stuff, not stuff already developed.
I went to the Monash Games Boot Camp; ironically I probably wouldn’t have issues with coming out to most people there. I found out a friend was gay there, and I found out another acquaintance was “bi”.
I guess if someone is reading this and maybe deciding to become a games programmer and is gay, take comfort, things are getting better. I would say that the games industry despite my earlier problems things have gotten a lot better, it is a creative industry so people are going to be from all sorts of backgrounds. If you’re in high school, Uni is a lot different; you’re going to have some level of acceptance in Uni. I personally dropped out of high school and part of that were the conflicting feelings of being gay. Don’t feel the need to be anyone but yourself, and realise that people have issues with being gay all the way in their 20s and I’m soon to see in their 30s I’m sure.
Also don’t let being Gay define who you are. I am starting to learn that emotionally it has to be a part of you but don’t let being Gay determine your actions. Your attracted to guys (or girls) and there are many elements that make up the rest of you. I believe the path to true integration into society is for people who are homophobic just to realise that gay guys and girls are just like them, they play games, they program, they go home to partners, they are short, they are tall, and they are chubby (like me), and some dress well, some don’t, some hit the gym every day, some don’t. I realised when I went through the stage of getting gay friends “hey these guys are just guys, with their good points and bad”.
I guess that’s why I have a fundamental issue with gay cultural stuff. I see gay bars as being a important thing, in terms you can go there and hit on someone and you know they aren’t going to get weirded out, but gay magazines and stuff are strange. You can find gay gaming magazines now, if I want to find out if a game is good enough, what does being gay have to-do with it? i.e. Halo 3 is going to suck if a straight or gay guy reviews the game.
*edit* I don’t want to be known as the gay games programmer, I don’t think its relevant most of the time. I don’t want to shout from the hilltops I’m gay or anything. The three things I consider important in a employer is,
1. Can I take my partner along to the christmas partner
2. Can I tell other colleagues about significant life events such as buying a house with a partner.
3. Ideally I don’t want a ton of gay jokes. It just makes it more comfortable without it.
Anyway, I hope someone finds this useful.








You’ve heard my opinion of this post — excellent piece of writing. I do disagree on one point though —
> You can find gay gaming magazines now, if I want to find out if a game is good
> enough, what does being gay have to-do with it?
Simple — one has a centrefold of Tidus, the other has Yuna.
Hi Glenn, Just a quick note to say thanks for giving your personal and honest story about being gay in the games industry. I work in this industry as well and it was great to hear your story.
Congratulations Glenn, on having the strength to come out publicly like this. That took balls.
I’ve worked with a number of gay co-workers over the years, at various studios in Australia and OS and always found them to be a pleasure to work with. Probably more so than the average straight co-worker if I’m to be completely honest.
And, as someone who worked with you for awhile, I had no idea you were gay. You hid it well –that must have been hard.
Tony, In some ways it was tough, but it becomes part of your personality to hide it. Being more of a heavy frame as well and a little socially awkward made it easier too.
John, no worries.
Tony actually in some ways it was harder to write this article then it was to hide being gay. I put this article up, then made it private, then made it public again and decided to post it to friends on facebook (after sitting there for about 20–30 mins debating it).
I wanted to post my remarks anonymously, as I’m well acquainted with the bigotry that Glenn’s spoken of and simply wanted to convey my point of view without any fuss.
Glenn, I hope you’ve found some solace in writing this blog — thank you for taking the time to do so. I’m sure the prejudice experienced in your personal life would be more than enough to contend with — it’s sad when people regard you as an irrelevant stereotype rather than a human being, and that simply has no place in a professional context.
I’ve worked with a few gay developers who have confided in me but were always terrified of being found out by their male co-workers. I’m very sad to say that they were often right to feel anxious and that some of these co-workers completely changed their tone towards people who they found to be gay, which is horrific and certainly changed my opinion of them in turn.
I hope that in future personal views won’t colour the atmosphere of games studios and the members of the boys’ club might grow up just enough to understand that it’s a place for all employees and not just themselves. I would love to see a future where the games industry no longer singles out gaming for a specific gender or social subcategory.
gay programmer is gay
but you are who you are
Do you see the irony of rearranging ‘Gay Games Programmer’ to ‘Games Programmer who happens to be Gay’? On one hand you subjugate the word ‘Gay’ and make it a non-defining characteristic, yet you don’t apply the same logic to the word ‘Games’.
Does this imply that you are happy live with the perceived cachet of being a ‘Games’ programmer over a regular programmer, yet can’t stand true in terms of your gayness?
I don’t believe you can have it both ways, you are either a ‘Gay Games Programmer’ (taking both the perceived good and perceived bad) or you are a ‘Programmer that happens to write Games and who happens to be Gay’.
To put it more bluntly, I don’t believe you can fairly profess to be offended by the judgments of others while you are in turn being just as judgemental in other respects.
Once you start peddling the currency of offence, once you start labelling others, once you start judging others on your projected prejudices rather than their actions, you really need to make sure your own house is in order first.
Well to be fair, this blog was written as a way for me to express my own feelings and my own thoughts, and not make a social statement.
So I’m quite free within those boundaries to make any sort of statement I like.
Great post. Sorry Im not a regular to your website, I just happened to come across it and Im gay as well. In my experience no work place is 100% gay friendly, sadly there is allways that one or two staff members who are prejudiced. I would advise you to never hide your sexuality, if somebody asks if your gay — just admit the truth. Sure you may regret being open, however its better to regret being open than regretting not being open about your sexuality. Also homophobic staff may change their attitude towards gay people once they get to know you, and realise that your really no different. This may be difficut, but don’t worry about what other people think of you.
Thanks for the advice Jason.
I thought I’d also post up a part of email I got from one of the guys at Krome I worked with. I agree with everything he says and it goes along the lines of what I was talking about, where you take comments based on the meaning behind them.
I think what I said specifically, was something along the lines of “With so many people in the engine room these days, statistically speaking, there must be at least one, maybe two gay guys in the room! I hope they’re not offended by out inappropriate banter.”
Turns out, statistics were right on the money!
That said, I never would have guessed! You’re certainly not a particularly gay gay guy.
Naturally, I don’t think anybody in the room was actually homophobic as such, it just seems to be one of those ‘blokey’, and particularly Australian things to makes generally prejudice jokes at minorities in general. I don’t think gay jokes are any more or less common than asian/arab/indian/religious/sexist/etc jokes… Just seems to tend that way when you have a pile of guys working in the same boring room every day, trying to entertain themselves. The lack of women in the room probably doesn’t help.
Most gay guys I know also understand that, and it doesn’t bother them, infact, they are known for making more gay jokes than anyone
That said, I can imagine if I were asian in a room full of people making asian jokes that I’d be feeling alienated no matter their intent. However I think there might be an important thing to note in that. Nobody would make asian jokes while there was an asian sitting in the room, naturally because they’re not ACTUALLY prejudice against asians, they’re just talking shit. Had people in the room been aware there was a gay guy in the room, I’ll bet the gay jokes would stop immediately
Very Nice article dude
And a good read too !
Thanks for your response. Sometimes I purposly make jokes about myself as a gay person because it then makes it harder for a homophobe to make jokes about me because they then know that its generally pointless because I wont be offended as I make fun of myself. Im pretty much against all homophobia simply because it encourages homophobia, however I feel its often better to pretend to tolerate homophobia so your then gaining the homophobes acceptance in the workplace. Because if other homophobes in the workplace see you as an openly gay person being friendly with one of the most homophobic people in the workplace, that then sends a very strong message to the other homophobes. Its also easier I feel to then quietly target there homophobia while you are there “friend” rather than somebody who is not there friend. If worse comes to worse and you cant make friends with the homophobes I suggest then make friends with lots of the gay friendly staff in the work place as its then be harder for the homophobe to target you as you have lots of people “on your side”.
Excellent article Glenn I also want to congratulate you for having the courage to write this publically. I can understand both how hard it must be as well as wondering how people will react. My brother is gay, and had been so for years before he told the family. I didn’t find out until I arrived at a family xmas to meet his partner. Happily no one in the family batted an eyelid, and his partner Chris is one of the nicest human beings I have ever met. Frankly I think I am more proud of my brother for having the convictions to live the life he want, rather than feeling bad in any way. I truly saddens me that there are people out there that fear gays as though they have some kind of diseases.
well done
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Just to show no hard feelings I just bought a copy of Fruit Ninja HD